Who is pulling the strings of Sandra Fluke?
Let's not be crazy enough to think that the almost overnight rise of the 30 year old coed from Georgetown was something that happened naturally. The left wrote the play book on how to astroturf either outrage (response to Rush Limbaugh) or a movement (coffee party, occupy and occupy wallstreet). A few days ago, the folks over at gateway pundit wrote a story that Sandra Fluke might be working with people inside the White House. The timing of the staged Pelosi Democrats only hearing in which Sandra Fluke was the only person to speak was suspicious. It came right at the time, when Obama was getting nailed over the Obama care mandate requiring religious institution to pay for the contraceptives of it's employees etc. I'm not going to rehash what is already known. That's water under the bridge, however I'm more concerned about who are the people controlling Sandra Fluke and who was responsible for her being invited to the hearing in the first place. I've said before that the left isn't going to make this 30 year old activist disappear simply because Limbaugh apologized for his remarks. They are going to exploit her for maximum political gain. Bill O'Reily's staff did some investigative journalism, and found some very interesting facts about this so called "brave" female student who spoke out "all on her own".
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:42 PM
10 Comments:
O'Reilly came to this conclusion;
The controversy was manufactured creating a diversion so that the attention is not on the presidents proposal for insurance providers of religious organizations, but rather on Flukes proposal for insurance providers of religious organizations. Huuuuhhhh? Really??
How much focus has been taken off a proposal that's been a hot topic for almost a month? Fluke only became an issue because Limbaugh attacked her. Was that a planned part of the "conspiracy" too? And how stupid does O'Reilly think his viewers are when he tells them, "the president is creating a diversion from his own proposal", and then claims that same proposal is helping the president politically?
Man o' man...how gullible can right-winger be! Fluke was called to testify in something she believes in. JUST AS THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE ISSA HEARING WERE ADVOCATES AGAINST BIRTH CONTROL, OF COURSE FLUKES'S AN ADVOCATE FOR BIRTH CONTROL! THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD HER TESTIFY IS SHE WASN'T, JUST AS ISSA DID NOT ALLOW HER BECAUSE SHE WAS!
Why don't you all think for yourselves instead of allowing Limbaugh to think for you? What if Bill Maher (who by the way is an atheist) had attacked the Issa hearing religious leaders as "a bunch of homosexual misogynist pedophiles who he would like to see castrated on video?" The right would have called for his head!
However, Maher is smart. Smart enough to know that such a comment wouldn't help in the issue. After his release from ABC he knows what to say, and when to say it. Whereas Limbaugh doesn't think and doesn't care. Limbaugh only cares about what his listeners want to hear, and what will excite them. The one thing he does know is that, idiot listeners want to hear idiotic comments.
The FACT is, had Rush Limbaugh had not shot off his fat mouth, this issue would have long been out of the spotlight.
"Maher is smart."
That is debatable. And your not to bright on this issue as well Allen. I am no O'Rielly fan but he does have a point. You just refuse to see there is an agenda here with the far left to use certain tactics in order to push a health mandate. They will use just about any means to do so.
"Whereas Limbaugh doesn't think and doesn't care. Limbaugh only cares about what his listeners want to hear, and what will excite them."
Wrong! Limbaugh is very popular because most of his listeners are what keeps him in the air unlike Air America which failed miserably. Remember we are mostly a center-right nation and that is why he is still on the air and if you think his followers are blind sheep, recall that the ones who can think for themselves are most of us which is why conservatism is alive and well were as statism is getting it's butt kicked. Again, go back to Air America.
I thought her surname was pronounced "flook". Or was O'Reilly speaking phonetically changing her name "flook" to "fluk", which rhymes with "f**k?
Eddie;"You just refuse to see there is an agenda here with the far left to use certain tactics in order to push a health mandate. They will use just about any means to do so".
Eddie, I won't call you stupid, but I will call you "gullible."
Of course the left has an agenda. Yet, it should be obvious to you that, that's what political parties do! How about this. Lets say I told you this;
"You just refuse to see there is an agenda here with the far right to use certain tactics in order to push a anti-abortion mandate. They will use just about any means to do so."
Wouldn't you say, "I clearly am aware of that agenda and you're absolutely right, we'll use about any means to do so!"
Thus, am I to believe that every tactic used to forward "YOUR" agenda is a conspiracy of some kind? Why would I even ponder the thought of a conspiracy? I already know who you are and what you want!.
You should already know that every member of the Issa hearing panel are against the birth control mandate. Isn't that obvious? What's also obvious is that Ms. Fluke is for it. Thus, the members of the Issa panel were called to refute the mandate, and Ms. Fluke was called to support it. Both sides had their "moment in the spotlight." Democrats and Republicans in congress do this all the time. One side argues for something, the other side argues against it, and vis-versa. Now do you understand?
What makes you gullible is the fact that right-wing pundits (like O'Reilly) frames the argument; "the controversy was manufactured creating a diversion so that the attention is not on the presidents proposal", to make you believe there's some "nefarious, conniving or suspicious" going-ings on. Yet again I have to ask,
IF THE END RESULT IS A HEALTH CARE MANDATE, WHICH YOU ALREADY KNOW IS WHAT THE LEFT WANTS, WHAT IS THE CONSPIRACY?
p allen "How much focus has been taken off a proposal that's been a hot topic for almost a month? "
When Obama's numbers started tanking over the contraceptive mandate, that was when they introduced Fluke. Obama has no right mandating private companies to pay for anything. THAT IS THE CORE ISSUE!! If Obama can mandate insurance companies to pay for contraceptives, where does it stop exactly?
p allen "Fluke only became an issue because Limbaugh attacked her. Was that a planned part of the "conspiracy" too? And how stupid does O'Reilly think his viewers are when he tells them, "the president is creating a diversion from his own proposal", and then claims that same proposal is helping the president politically?
Why did progressives get out of shape when Limbaugh called an unknown woman a slut in the first place? The left didn't react like this when they called well known women like Palin, Ingraham and Coutler etc that and much much worse. So why the outrage over Limbaugh allen? The left keeps claiming that Limbaugh is so irrelevant and just an entertainer, yet the howling over what this irrelevant entertainer said by the left is beyond laughable. Why did it become an issue allen?
p allen "Man o' man...how gullible can right-winger be! Fluke was called to testify in something she believes in. JUST AS THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN THE ISSA HEARING WERE ADVOCATES AGAINST BIRTH CONTROL"
Wrong allen, the Issa hearing was about the unconstitutionality of how the contraceptive mandate infringed upon the first amendment clause of the separation between church and state. You are so deceptive. The left is trying to present an illusion that the right is trying to ban contraceptives and is waging a "war on women". People like you are the gullible ones for either falling for it or thinking others with an ounce of brain matter would do the same. Yes, many of the religious leaders who testified are against birth control, so what was your point? Who's stopping women like Fluke from getting contraceptives? She can do down to hear local Georgetown Walmart and BUY IT!!!!! It's not being hidden, she doesn't have to jump through hoops to get it. IT'S THERE!!!!! Who's preventing her and others like her from obtaining it allen?!!!!!!Give me the names of the right wing bogeymen, and I will personally shake my finger at them!!!! This became a fake issue the moment Sandra Fluke was brought out by the Dems in their dog and phony show hearing. Sit down.
Eddie, leave it to allen to think a person like Maher is even remotely smart. Bill Maher reminds me of brainy smurf. Brainy was so absorbed in his perceived intelligence, but the other smurfs around him just saw him as a fool and actually not smart at all.
Eddie responding to allen "Wrong! Limbaugh is very popular because most of his listeners are what keeps him in the air unlike Air America which failed miserably"
I can't remember the last time I heard of a conservative talk show either nationally or locally ever being cancelled due to lack of listeners. It's no wonder the left wants to impose the unfairness doctrine on them. Talk radio is the ultimate example on how the left can't match up against the right in the arena of ideology. Nobody wants to listen to progressive talk radio. Most progressive talk radio shows are internet based and not even syndicated, because they can't attract listeners to warrant having sponsors. Air America when it first launched foolishly made the claim that it was going to be the "answer to Rush Limbaugh". Air America is now on the ash heap of other progressive failures in trying to combat conservative talk radio.
CB;"When Obama's numbers started tanking over the contraceptive mandate, that was when they introduced Fluke".
Okay, I understand fully. You weren't told that Fluke wanted to testify from FROM THE START! Darrell Issa refused to allow Sandra Fluke to testify. You weren't told because your right-wing buddies wanted you to believe she was "introduced" at the last minute. Try reading something other that Breitbart .com Tyrone....
CB;"Why did progressives get out of shape when Limbaugh called an unknown woman a slut in the first place?.
Because calling an unknown citizen a "slut" and a "prostitute" because she exercises her right to testify about contraceptives (aka "birth control") before congress is despicable and vile.
Why did you get bent out of shape over Sandra Bernhards comments about Sarah Palin? Same reason for both situations. For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Plainly put, it comes from both sides...get used to it.
CB;"Wrong allen, the Issa hearing was about the unconstitutionality of how the contraceptive mandate infringed upon the first amendment clause of the separation between church and state".
Tyrone, the next time you claim that a statement is "wrong", try not to use a phrase or term in your response validating the argument (such as "contraceptive") while disputing the statement.
You sound kinda' like this;
"I'm not talking about prostitution, I'm talking about a persons right to sell their body!".
or
"I don't want the government in the health care business, so leave my medicaid alone!!".
Wow... The hearing was about "contraceptives" but had nothing to do with "birth control?" lol...
Maybe you should have let Eddie respond. I hope he can do better.
p allen "Okay, I understand fully. You weren't told that Fluke wanted to testify from FROM THE START! Darrell Issa refused to allow Sandra Fluke to testify. You weren't told because your right-wing buddies wanted you to believe she was "introduced" at the last minute. Try reading something other that Breitbart .com Tyrone...."
The word "wrong" and allen should be paired together. If you would have done your research, you would have discovered that the hearing wasn't about contraceptives as I said before. It was a "FREEDOM OF RELIGION HEARING". That is why clergy of different faiths were invited to speak. Now unless Sandra Skank was an expert on theology or the constitution, she had no purpose being there. Sorry the truth is such a hard thing for you to understand allen. It's not hard.
p allen "Wow... The hearing was about "contraceptives" but had nothing to do with "birth control?" lol...
Maybe you should have let Eddie respond. I hope he can do better."
Genius, and I do use the word lightly. If the hearing was about birth control, why were the only people invited religious leaders? Think McFly. As I will restate again. Who is stopping Fluke from going any getting contraceptives and other forms of birth control? In order to create this mythical war on woman, the left should at least create some evidence that the war is actually being fought against them. Silly me to think such a thing right allen?
p allen "Tyrone, the next time you claim that a statement is "wrong", try not to use a phrase or term in your response validating the argument (such as "contraceptive") while disputing the statement. "
Since you claim the hearing was about contraceptives and birth control, what types of birth control and contraceptives were discussed allen? Since you claim to be so informed, maybe you can shed some light on this to me. Was Issa and the clergy talking about how to use it, what brands they discussed? You can't have a contraceptive hearing without talking brands you know. Was the Trojan man there?
LOL LOL LOL! Its not about prostitution its about selling your body. Thats funny. allen your really mopping the floor with alpha boy. Alpha is so confused he starts saying stuff that does not make any sense. The hearing was about contraception alpha male. And contraception is birth control. The congress has a hearing about the constitutionality of defense of marriage act it is about same sex marriage. Its the same thing. Your tripping alpha male.
Gerald T-
Gerald T "LOL LOL LOL! Its not about prostitution its about selling your body. Thats funny. allen your really mopping the floor with alpha boy. Alpha is so confused he starts saying stuff that does not make any sense. The hearing was about contraception alpha male. And contraception is birth control. The congress has a hearing about the constitutionality of defense of marriage act it is about same sex marriage. Its the same thing. Your tripping alpha male."
So pitiful. You and Allen remind me of two nerds who try to high five each other thinking they've done something good but missed in the exchange. Let me explain. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee recently convened the first Congressional hearing on the administration's mandate that religious employers pay for abortion-inducing drugs, contraceptives and sterilization procedures in their employee health care plans, despite the fact that some of these items and services violate the employers' core religious teachings. Since the Committee hearing was about hearing from clergy of religious institutions about how the mandate was going to force them to have to go against their teachings, there was no need to hear from Sandra Fluke, she wasn't a member of clergy and she was for the breach of the 1st amendment for her cause. Unless she was a clergy who represented a church or religious institution that was going to be negatively impacted, there was no reason for her to be there. That is what you and allen want to conveniently ignore. I've gotten several emails from readers asking me are you two for real, and I have to explain to them, that yes they are for real and really that clueless.
Post a Comment
<< Home